And since I've gotten feedback that this is still obscure and enigmatic: I credited last year's Worldcon site (London) with attracting record numbers of (mostly European) younger, less chauvinist members, and likewise record numbers of Hugo nominations and votes and a generally diverse slate of nominees and winners. The Sad Puppies are a backlash: a bunch of people who thought this was some kind of secret cabal conspiracy and decided to organize their own, notionally to nominate people of "more diverse political thought" but mostly to advance a Libertarian agenda and make sure no "Social Justice Warriors" were nominated. The upcoming Worldcon in Spokane, like most US Worldcons, was already looking like it was going to be full enough of this kind of people that I wasn't interested in going. It looks like there'll be a counter-backlash, though. I do have a supporting membership (having voted in the site selection) and expect I'll be voting on the Hugos, once I sort out which of the Sad Puppy slate are crap intended to squeeze out some superior work by a progressive voice and which are works of actual quality in categories where the Sad Puppies either didn't feel there was a progressive voice to squeeze out or where the works they wanted to exclude weren't the best option anyway.
Although I have long since tired of calcified fandom in general and those who identify as "Libertarian" in particular, I think the puppy agenda goes well beyond tiresome and annoying.
I was under the impression that this year's nomination numbers broke last year's record largely due to the organized slate campaign. Unaffiliated Loncon members were eligible to nominate this year too but presumably not as motivated.
I think where the geographic difference may show up is in the voting. There's been plenty of on-line buzz (e.g. Pretty Terrible, Making Light, and Whatever) about the nominations, and plenty of people saying they're going to buy supporting memberships and vote No Award above anything on the slates. I've also heard that Sasquan is currently being swamped with membership requests to the point of asking people to wait until next week (an eternity in Internet time). Whether those saying they will join and vote actually do so in large-enough numbers to effectively neutralize the slate remains to be seen. I assume by now you've seen the posts like this one about sorting out the nominees.
In the rumor-mill department I've seen speculation that Helsinki in 2017 is somehow behind all this because Castalia House is a Finnish company. I don't know how many people are believing or spreading this idea.
I'm pretty sure that neither Helsinki in 2017 nor DC in 2017 have anything to do with this.
Nor do I think this really has anything to do with the Worldcon being in London last year.
I think the Sad Puppies are faction that was been growing for a while and they have finally reached critical mass.
And to use this whole thing as a justification for voting for Helsinki is just comically sad (and reeks of desperation).
People should vote for what they think is going to be the best Worldcon just like they should vote for the best work in a Hugo Category even if they were on the Sad Puppies slate.
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Date: 2015-04-06 03:36 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-04-06 03:54 pm (UTC)SJWs in particular sound like they should be a DC Comics superhero ensemble.
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Date: 2015-04-07 04:46 pm (UTC)I was under the impression that this year's nomination numbers broke last year's record largely due to the organized slate campaign. Unaffiliated Loncon members were eligible to nominate this year too but presumably not as motivated.
I think where the geographic difference may show up is in the voting. There's been plenty of on-line buzz (e.g. Pretty Terrible, Making Light, and Whatever) about the nominations, and plenty of people saying they're going to buy supporting memberships and vote No Award above anything on the slates. I've also heard that Sasquan is currently being swamped with membership requests to the point of asking people to wait until next week (an eternity in Internet time). Whether those saying they will join and vote actually do so in large-enough numbers to effectively neutralize the slate remains to be seen. I assume by now you've seen the posts like this one about sorting out the nominees.
In the rumor-mill department I've seen speculation that Helsinki in 2017 is somehow behind all this because Castalia House is a Finnish company. I don't know how many people are believing or spreading this idea.
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Date: 2015-04-13 07:33 pm (UTC)Nor do I think this really has anything to do with the Worldcon being in London last year.
I think the Sad Puppies are faction that was been growing for a while and they have finally reached critical mass.
And to use this whole thing as a justification for voting for Helsinki is just comically sad (and reeks of desperation).
People should vote for what they think is going to be the best Worldcon just like they should vote for the best work in a Hugo Category even if they were on the Sad Puppies slate.